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Post by VladimirIlychLenin on Jul 25, 2003 1:10:25 GMT -5
If I made a device that is two parts Vaseline and 1 part gasoline and ignite it with an eletric charge?
A k3wl explosion, or nothing at all? I'm curious
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Post by DevourThePain on Jul 25, 2003 1:17:29 GMT -5
What exactly would your electric charge be? Your gasoline/ vaseline charge would likely do nothing at all. Now if you were to mix 9 parts by volume of potassium or sodium chlorate with 1 part by volume of vaseline you could detonate the mix with a 2 gram blasting cap.
If you were to make a mix of 50% gasoline and 50% motor oil together you could use the resultant liquid as a sensatizer in an ANFO charge. This charge would also need to be initiated with a blasting cap of around 2 grams since ANFO can be quite stubborn if it's packed.
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Post by Slithz3rikai on Jul 25, 2003 12:27:02 GMT -5
It will not blow up. I have doubts about it even lighting.
Gasoline + motor oil is a terrible sensitizer for ANFO, since neither motor oil or gasoline is actually a fuel oil. A better bet would be diesel fuel. Detonate with a large blasting cap, a peroxidated ketone(AP, MEKP), etc. MEKPAN is a great way to detonate ANFO. Just don't go be a dumbass about it and get AN taken off the shelves.
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Post by Stone on Jul 26, 2003 4:27:54 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I'm 99% sure that Diesel isn't flammable. It only explodes when compressed. That is why a diesel car only has a glow plug instead of a spark plug. The glow plug heats up the diesel to make it more volatile.
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Post by Slithz3rikai on Jul 26, 2003 10:02:29 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong... But I'm 99% sure that Diesel isn't flammable. It only explodes when compressed. That is why a diesel car only has a glow plug instead of a spark plug. The glow plug heats up the diesel to make it more volatile. Right, but in an ANFO explosion, it only acts as a sensitizer and not as an accelerant. |
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Post by DevourThePain on Jul 26, 2003 23:30:00 GMT -5
Now I don't know if I just have better motor oil that you guys or something, but gasoline/ motor oil worked great for me. Diesel fuel IS flammable... Flammable means that it burns... Pour some of it on the ground and light it on fire.. it'll burn kinda hot there.
Also, gasoline and motor oil may not be the greatest energetic material in the world... but I dont exactly think its going to lessen the amount of gasses exerted by the explosion, and I doubt it would lessen the VoD. Granted Nitro Methane would be a far greater sensatizer/ performance enhancer than gasoline and motor oil, Gasoline and motor oil would work just fine.
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Post by Slithz3rikai on Jul 27, 2003 12:26:56 GMT -5
You don't need as big an explosion to detonate ANFO if you use a better sensitizer.
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 27, 2003 21:05:15 GMT -5
I know nothing about the area of explosives so anytime I see something I dont understand Im just gonna ask what it is ok?
What is an ANFO explosion? I dont mind looking like a n00b or retard once I get a decent reply that will answer my question.
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Post by Torcher on Jul 27, 2003 23:39:34 GMT -5
ANFO = Ammonium Nitrate+Fuel Oil
fuel oil = diesel, kerosene, gasoline+oil.
its used for mining. they drill a bunch of holes in a certain pattern and pour the ANFO into the holes with blasting caps in each hole and then "DETONATION"!
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 28, 2003 0:13:57 GMT -5
Thanks mate
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Post by Torcher on Jul 28, 2003 20:45:15 GMT -5
uhh no problem...
ya damn aussie ;D
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Post by Prometheus on Jul 28, 2003 23:02:48 GMT -5
Hehe Irish actually  |
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Post by ZBoxDemon on Jul 29, 2003 2:07:15 GMT -5
Most likely there would be no reaction between the vaseline and gasoline? As gas isn't flammable unless it's in a vapor form. Better dig through the chemistry book..
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Post by DevourThePain on Jul 29, 2003 21:24:18 GMT -5
Unless I'm horribly mistaken and missing something quite important, both gasoline and vasoline (petrollium jelly) are petrolium distilates. They would serve as a fuel in a pyrotechnic mixture. The mix of gasoline and vasoline might burn slowly but thats pretty much it. If one was to mix in some kind of oxidiser like a chlorate or a perchlorate the resultant mixture would likely be flammable or if one is very lucky, explosive.
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Post by Slithz3rikai on Jul 29, 2003 21:46:15 GMT -5
They would serve as a fuel in a pyrotechnic mixture. It depends entirely on the mixture. It could be a fuel, an accelerant, a sensitizer(ANFO), or even a retardant. |
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