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Post by ZBoxDemon on Aug 4, 2003 0:57:32 GMT -5
Now the question is, what about the actual first contact with alien life. If everyone saw that kind of event on TV (assuming first contact hasn't happened yet). Just think of the effect it would have on everybody. maybe that would be so radical that people go into denial and refuse to believe that first contact actually occurred?
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Post by Stone on Aug 4, 2003 1:00:36 GMT -5
I think that it would unite humanity in finally knowing that God and Religion is a sham.
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Post by ZBoxDemon on Aug 4, 2003 1:04:36 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be possible that it could also put us back on the right track in believing in god?... Instead of it putting god out the door, maybe it just chucks christianity out the door? Afterall, you can believe in a god/ spirituality without actually being part of a particular religion.
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Post by Kakkaraun on Aug 4, 2003 1:21:48 GMT -5
Ok. Good point. But, Lets look at it like a ship in the navy. Over the last 500 years alone there have been some amazing changes in seafaring technology. If you look at an aircraft carrier, all the important technology on it would have been created within at least the last century. I'd be very suprised if a human from 500 years ago would have any idea about how any of it works. That would be like us trying to understand the alien technology (I presume). BUT the people inhabiting these ships have toothbrushes, and sinks, and many other things of intermittent complexity. You see what I mean?
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Post by Kakkaraun on Aug 4, 2003 1:22:57 GMT -5
I think that it would unite humanity in finally knowing that God and Religion is a sham. What does spirituality have to do with the existence of extraterrestrial lifeforms?
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Post by Prometheus on Aug 4, 2003 21:58:21 GMT -5
Its in relation to our beliefs. We believe in a higher power. We find a race of beings more advanced than ourselves. We learn a whole lotta stuff from them and start to question our previous beliefs. Eventually spirituality will come under question. Seems politics and spirituality can come into any coversation nowadays, its just down to how long you talk for.
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Post by Kakkaraun on Aug 5, 2003 1:14:49 GMT -5
Its in relation to our beliefs. We believe in a higher power. We find a race of beings more advanced than ourselves. We learn a whole lotta stuff from them and start to question our previous beliefs. Eventually spirituality will come under question. Seems politics and spirituality can come into any coversation nowadays, its just down to how long you talk for. However, the thing about religious folks, mostly the Judeo-Christian ones, is that no deliberate action on anyone's part will ever change their mind. Hell, most of the time, nothing will. If something "Shakes their faith," it's usual more of a "God hates me" ordeal than a "God doesn't exist" ordeal. At least in my experience.
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Post by Xaroc on Aug 7, 2003 20:52:22 GMT -5
If there are ways to sustain life on other places whether a bacteria or some oblong cow shaped life form it will try the best to thrive. Just because it isn’t what the common idea of aliens the "we are here to destroy or abduct". Life comes in a lot of shapes and forms the proof of aliens is on our own planet. See the various forms of life on our planet prove that we aren’t the only life that can think and act and procreate. If our little marble can keep us alive then other planets can keep other forms alive. Not to mention we have discovered life on metros and such in the form of bacteria and if you consider that life then we have found the "Aliens"
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Post by Kakkaraun on Aug 8, 2003 0:33:25 GMT -5
If there are ways to sustain life on other places whether a bacteria or some oblong cow shaped life form it will try the best to thrive. Just because it isn’t what the common idea of aliens the "we are here to destroy or abduct". Life comes in a lot of shapes and forms the proof of aliens is on our own planet. See the various forms of life on our planet prove that we aren’t the only life that can think and act and procreate. If our little marble can keep us alive then other planets can keep other forms alive. Not to mention we have discovered life on metros and such in the form of bacteria and if you consider that life then we have found the "Aliens" I have no fucking clue what you just said, but all life on Earth needs oxygen to survive. Most planets have little to no oxygen, so a lot of people think that those planets couldn't sustain life. However, they don't take into consideration the fact that alien life forms could very well have an aerobic system that depends on some element /other/ than oxygen.
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Post by Xaroc on Aug 8, 2003 1:18:09 GMT -5
I have no fucking clue what you just said, but all life on Earth needs oxygen to survive. Most planets have little to no oxygen, so a lot of people think that those planets couldn't sustain life. However, they don't take into consideration the fact that alien life forms could very well have an aerobic system that depends on some element /other/ than oxygen. I’m saying that "alien" life doesn’t have to be the stereotypical "OOOH I'm here to abduct you" life comes in all forms like bacteria and animals like sheep. So alien life is out there. And yes life on Earth dose need oxygen to survive but, as you have stated, some life may have evolved with no need for oxygen.
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Post by Kakkaraun on Aug 8, 2003 1:24:56 GMT -5
I’m saying that "alien" life doesn’t have to be the stereotypical "OOOH I'm here to abduct you" life comes in all forms like bacteria and animals like sheep. So alien life is out there. And yes life on Earth dose need oxygen to survive but maybe some life may not. How does the fact that alien life likely comes in all forms (ie, not just equivalent to Earth's humans, but to Earth's cows, birds, et cetera) prove the existence of said life?
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Post by Xaroc on Aug 8, 2003 16:47:56 GMT -5
You stated it yourself. I do...the universe is simply too big not to contain lifeforms from other planets. Besides, the existence of aliens has already been proven. There were living bacteria in meteorites from Mars, IIRC. . If you consider bacteria life then the proof is given. And besides if bacteria can thrive somewhere then something else can survive. That works in theory anyway.
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Post by Kakkaraun on Aug 8, 2003 22:27:44 GMT -5
You stated it yourself. If you consider bacteria life then the proof is given. And besides if bacteria can thrive somewhere then something else can survive. That works in theory anyway. Except, as stated in the post immediately below that one, they discovered that it wasn't bacteria at all, but wierd markings on the rock.
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Post by Xaroc on Aug 8, 2003 23:56:34 GMT -5
Except, as stated in the post immediately below that one, they discovered that it wasn't bacteria at all, but wierd markings on the rock. Alas I too know this but it could just be more lies, to protect the religious bullshit. Here’s my thought. If god created man, supposedly, "it" (I said "it" because god has no specific gender that anyone can tell) created them. So no one should be worried about it. But this is all my opinion as usual.
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Post by Kakkaraun on Aug 9, 2003 0:02:42 GMT -5
Alas I too know this but it could just be more lies, to protect the religious bullshit. Here’s my thought. If god created man, supposedly, "it" (I said "it" because god has no specific gender that anyone can tell) created them. So no one should be worried about it. But this is all my opinion as usual. You have a good point there. It'd be pretty hard for scientists to mistake bacteria for...whatever the hell it "was."
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